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By putting the two together, you limit the possibilities. He was born in 1955, grew up in Chicago, and moved to New York City in the early 1970s. Christopher Wool (b. After all, his aim, as with most good artists, is to go beyond what he knows. But it’s edited. Christopher Wool Bibliography . If you’re not fearless about changes, then you won’t progress. Richard and Christopher have now collaborated on a series of word images. References to science-fiction, archeological ruins, Roman antiquities, and postwar abstraction combine as she transforms the human figure into grimacing … Text and image don’t always work together in the way music and song lyrics become part of each other. During the interview, we were joined by Oehlen’s friend and mine, the painter Christopher Wool. Copyright © 2021 Interview Magazine. So then the question follows,“What next?” If you believe in reactionary narratives or apostolic succession, paintings like Christopher Wool’s: IFYOUCAN T TAKE AJOKEYOU CANGETHE THEFUCK OUT FUCK OUTOF OF MYHOUSEmake a lot of sense. I was impressed by how casually he was willing to make what seemed like a major change. Artista conocido por sus cuadros de gran tamaño. 25 October 2013 – 22 January 2014 by NATASHA KURCHANOVA. Our project didn’t have anything to do with changing those words, or reassessing those words. GO: Richard, did you know Christopher’s work before he asked permission to use your words? He wanted to ask my permission to use the words that I’d written on my chest on the cover of my Blank Generation album, as the text for a word painting. Christopher Wool was born in Chicago in 1955 and moved to New York City in the mid-1970s. This was 1997 or 1998. Read full article at interviewmagazine.com, Luhring Augustine Chelsea GO: The way people read is all about a kind of shorthand. Anyway, we started with 13 pairs of words. RH: I didn’t really know it. RH: Poetry’s always dead, you know? He retired from music in 1984 and built a reputation as a writer to rival the one he made as a musician. Christopher Wool’s most popular book is How to See: Looking, Talking, and Thinking about Art. And he asked me to do something for this magazine Whitewall when they wanted an interview he didn’t want to give. CW: Despite all the attention paid to art right now, you could easily argue that it’s dead, too. Selected Books and Catalogues: 2018 Wool, Christopher. It’s called Weather. 1955) Mad Cow signed, titled and dated 'WOOL MAD COW 1997 (P257)' (on the reverse) enamel on aluminium 78 x 60in. With Mr. CW: With Jean-Michel or Picasso, the fact that they could do it so easily is what makes the work, in the end, so great. But I asked Christopher if he would do the cover of mine. Christopher Wool - Crosstown Crosstown, artist talk at DCA.flv - Duration: 6:55. And like . And in Magic Marker I have across my chest, in all caps: YOU MAKE ME ____. But it’s not all in New York anymore. Tel: 212.206.9100 Fax: 212.206.9055, Luhring Augustine Bushwick cat., Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles, 1998, p. 258). . cat., Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles, 1998, p. 258). RH: They were more like pamphlets really. G A G O S I A N . 17 White Street, New York, NY 10013 Richard Hell was one of the originators of punk music. Aidy Bryant and Carrie Brownstein on Why It’s Cool to Be Angry, Bebe Rexha and Alicia Keys Reflect on Success, Songwriting, and Self-Sabotage, Girl in Red and Finneas on the Brutal Honesty of Making Music, Jonny Sun and Lin-Manuel Miranda on Text Friendships, Connection, and the Perfect Metaphor of Eggs. Solomon R Guggenheim Museum, New York City. He wanted to ask my permission to use the words that I’d written on my chest on the cover of my Blank Generation album, as the text for a word painting. GO: Art-making got decentralized. All images © the artists and Luhring Augustine. CW: Explain what Weather is. Richard and Christopher have now collaborated on a series of word images. RH: I went over to Christopher’s and saw his painting. It was so great to work with Christopher. CW: But this has been a big, long collaboration. He played in the first wave of bands that brought attention to CBGB and became famous in 1977 as the auteur of the album Blank … . His first one-man show was at the legendary Cable Gallery in 1984, and since then, he has showed his bold word paintings; edgy, energetic pattern paintings; and revolutionary, quietly startling manipulated abstract paintings in galleries and museums around the world. You don’t realize how good poetry is until 15 years later. So it worked out great. CW: As for poets doing this kind of collaboration, it doesn’t seem that it’s dead, but that maybe it’s skipping a generation or something. There’s an empty line below the last word. That same year the family moved to the Hyde Park neighborhood of Chicago, where Wool was brought up alongside his younger brother Jonathon. The Gallery is committed to ensuring that its website is accessible to all people, including individuals with disabilities. C O M . It’s more spread out, like alternative music or something. CW: I have taken things and made paintings without having permission. That’s the environment now, rather than woods and hills and oceans. The book is actually all the versions of one poem as Richard was working on it. As Wool would later go on to explain, “I became more interested in 'how to paint it' than 'what to paint’” (Christopher Wool, quoted in Ann Goldstein, “Interview with the Artist 17 October 1997”, Christopher Wool, exh. Though he’s been away for little periods, and I’ve been away for some periods. RH: There are great exceptions though, like the Sonia Delaunay/Blaise Cendrars “The Prose of the Trans-Siberian and of Little Jehanne of France,” where the poem is printed multicolor in one 2-meter-long accordion fold, and she does watercolors lightly all around the text. (198.1 x 152.4cm.) His most recent novel is Godlike. It’s not like I own those words. And in Magic Marker I have across my chest, in all caps: YOU MAKE ME ____. Christopher Wool is widely recognized as one of the world’s most important painters. GO: I have several. It seemed gallant. RH: I had pairs of words that we wanted to make into images. RH: I wrote about his photography for the Taschen book. At first glance, Christopher Wool’s paintings are objects, complete and unequivocal. See more ideas about wool, abstract, art. But in this case, I wouldn’t. PSYCHOPTS is a book of 57 pictures by Wool and Hell, published by JMc & GHB Editions this month. Because his photographs blew me away. Berlin: Holzwarth Publications. And everyone does that a little bit-they think they see a word when they read something else. People don’t all come to New York anymore. It was just a blank. Christopher Wool will show new work at Luhring Augustine in New York City, May 10-June 14. It’s really interesting with art-movies too, but art especially-to see how your attitude toward artists and works and your level of appreciation of them is always shifting and changing over the years. Glenn O’Brien: How do you know each other? His first one-man show was at the legendary Cable Gallery in 1984, and since then, he has showed his bold word paintings; edgy, energetic pattern paintings; and revolutionary, quietly startling manipulated abstract paintings in galleries and museums around the world. Christopher Wool, Blue Fool (for Glenn O’Brien), 1990, 12 1/8 x 7 5/8 in., enamel on aluminum, image via: Simon Lee Gallery Kenny Schachter is selling a sweet little Christopher Wool painting that once belonged to Glenn O’Brien. Christopher Wool resists being interviewed and gets frustrated when he does agree to talk about his work. Tel: 718.386.2746 Fax: 718.386.2744, Luhring Augustine Tribeca So it worked out great. ), ‘What they’re not: The Paintings of Christopher Wool’, ed. Not too long ago, I saw that somebody said something like, “If I hate it, I know I like it.” [laughs] It might have been John Waters. Nació en Boston en 1955. GO: It’s weird what’s going on with the world of poetry, with the influence of the poetry slam. self-confident, and suave. Wool began creating black-and-white paintings covered in stenciled phrases, … Richard Hell: We first got acquainted when Christopher called me up about using some words. That’s because everything he can say is provisional and partial. It’s what you see on TV, on the computer, what is in the magazines and newspapers. Not just two things side by side. My eye would jump somewhere and it would turn out to say “stuns,” and I would realize: Wait a minute, I was expecting “anus.” Obviously my eye jumped because it’d caught a glimpse of a word that was charged for me. GO: Are these poems in the order that you wrote them? Is that right? In a later interview Wool explains that he rejected everything his teachers taught him, and that the only advice he followed at the time was Pousette-Dart's idea that an artist should follow his own path continuously and independently, regardless of any tribulations. With Basquiat or Picasso, the fact that they could do it so easily is what makes the work so great. ‘In the recent works of 1997, overpainting with white becomes very specifically about erasure – erasure as a process of producing and articulating an image’ (C. Wool, interview with A. Goldstein, (ed. Mar 1, 2021 - Explore alberto's board "Christopher Wool" on Pinterest. I interviewed him in New York when he came for the opening of a show featuring the work of his late friend Martin Kippenberger at the Museum of Modern Art. Christopher Wool will show new work at Luhring Augustine in New York City, May 10-June 14. cat., San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, San Francisco, 1998, p. 258). Excerpt from a Wright Auctions text on Christopher Woo The guy was a gentleman and an artist. CW: It’s become more performance-oriented and less book-oriented. It has been for the past 50, 70 years. CW: Richard was publishing a series of poetry books. RH: There’s a lot going on among young poets. CW: The problem is: If you take text and image and you put them together, the multiple readings that are possible in either poetry or in something visual are reduced to one specific reading. Christopher Wool has a reputation for not talking much. Brainard copied out the words in his hand and drew pictures around them and opposite them to make a completely integrated work. If you find yourself swinging by NYC’s Guggenheim in time to catch the Christopher Wool retrospective (open until January 22nd), you’ll first encounter a painting featuring a run-on phrase that begins, “THE SHOW IS OVER...”. You’ll see three letters, and you’re going so fast that you kind of assume what it is. We played around with how to put them together, how to make images out of them. GO: I remember, as a teenager, hearing songs like “Paint It, Black” for the first time and thinking, Wow, there is something really wrong with this. In expressive drawings on photographs as well as figurative sculptures carved from cork and Styrofoam, assembled from refuse and clay, or cast in bronze, Huma Bhabha probes the tensions between time, memory, and displacement. Wool, the recurring question becomes not only “Is that a painting?” but also “Is that actually painted?” And the answer often is: No, not strictly speaking. RH: Right. Christopher Wool in his studio with new paintings . Black Book exemplifies Christopher Wool’s use of the typographical word as a pictorial image. CW: Actually they are almost in reverse order. He played in the first wave of bands that brought attention to CBGB and became famous in 1977 as the auteur of the album Blank Generation. Richard Hell was one of the originators of punk music. GO: Do you guys think the age of poets collaborating with painters is over? GO: I thought they were variations on a theme. It seemed gallant. . PHOTO: Kyoko Hamada. Christopher  Wool in his studio with new paintings. Christopher Wool is widely recognized as one of the world’s most important painters. Christopher Wool is widely recognized as one of the world’s most important painters. I mean, that was really courteous. Where’s the ‘blank’?” And he said, “Well, how about I just leave a space at the bottom?” Which is what he did. I would find that my eye jumped to a word on a page because I was anticipating something. Christopher had actually done the same thing, though I didn’t know it-and neither did he, since he didn’t know the history of Weather, and in fact didn’t publish his until a few years after my book. Don't be discouraged. It’s funny, when I first saw his stuff, I was kind of aghast. 25 Knickerbocker Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11237 Oh, and then it turned out I missed something when I painted Richard’s words. You're going the right way. Publication coincides with an exhibition of a portfolio of nine silk screens of these images, along with six collaborative drawings, at John McWhinnie @ Glenn Horowitz Bookseller and Art Gallery in New York City (johnmcwhinnie.com). It’s great if you can get them to somehow expand on each other, like the way W.G. RH: There’s a movie of Picasso painting where you see a canvas go through all of its forms, like stop-motion photography. 112-115. iTicest iricest "WITH OR PICASSO, THE FACTTHATTHEY COULD DO IT SO EASILY WHAT MAKES THE WORK SO GREAT. . ... Interview Magazine November 18, 2008 "Hard Attack" by … And like . His most recent novel is Godlike. As Wool explains, “I became more interested in 'how to paint it' than 'what to paint'” (Christopher Wool, quoted in Ann Goldstein, “Interview with the Artist 17 October 1997”, Christopher Wool, exh. I mean, that was really courteous. 531 West 24th Street, New York, NY 10011 Photograph by Stephen Shore. There’s an empty line below the last word. It was a gift from the artist. THEY HAD ABSOLUTE His first one-man show was at the legendary Cable Gallery in 1984, and since then, he has showed his bold word paintings; Richard Hell was one of the originators of punk music. Sebald did when he used photographs in his books, or Breton did, with -photographs, in Nadja. In this short video excerpt Christopher Wool talks about some aspects of his art. Rene Ricard with art by Robert Hawkins. It was just a blank. In Christopher Wool’s early career, he spotted a white truck vandalized by the spray-painted words “sex” and “luv.” The stark simplicity of the image stuck with him for the next 15 years. I mean, it did kind of peak in the ’50s and ’60s-Frank O’Hara and Larry Rivers, the abstract expressionists, and then all of the St. Mark’s poets with Joe Brainard and George Schneeman. . To me, they’re funny-though they’re in your face, too. CW: Yeah. Which of course he didn’t have to do. An underscore. They were just images we started with. GO: Richard, what other contact had you had with Christopher before this current collaboration? Glenn O’Brien, who goes way back with both of them, met the pair at Wool’s studio on the far Lower East Side of Manhattan to discuss this. Richard Hell: We first got acquainted when Christopher called me up about using some words. The thing is that the discarded stage in retrospect sometimes looks more interesting than the direction I took in the finished painting. Estudió en Sarah Lawrence College y en New York Studio School. On the original album cover I’m standing there holding my jacket open, and I don’t have a shirt on underneath. Where’s the ‘blank’?” And he said, “Well, how about I just leave a space at the bottom?” Which is what he did. A. Goldstein Christopher Wool, exh. . They’re about making something to look at that has these other things going on too. “Christopher Wool, Richard Hell: The Abstract Painter and the Rocking Writer Talk About Their New Collaboration” Interview Magazine. His eye is impeccable and he was so generous. Artists Back. The guy was a gentleman and an artist. Christopher Wool has 22 books on Goodreads with 229 ratings. They’ll take the finished thing and then deconstruct it. - CHRISTOPHER WOOL, 2003 Looking objectively at the conventions of painting, wrestling with its traditions and questioning its foundations from within, is a seemingly volatile stance for any artist. (135 X 90 cm. Unauthorized use is prohibited. Now media is our environment. RH: Well, not necessarily, but many of them included drawings. GO: I think, at best, collaboration is like dub music in reggae. I called the series Psychopts because of that. They stand in front of us as things that are thought through, perfected and complete in their manufacturing process. Christopher Wool was born in Boston in 1955 to Glorye and Ira Wool, a psychiatrist and a molecular biologist. And then sometimes you catch yourself. Tel: 646.960.7540. And so that’s what you make your art out of. CW: They were poetry and art collaborations. It used to be that artists thought of nature as their environment. All rights reserved. Publication coincides with an exhibition of a portfolio of nine silk screens of these images, along with six collaborative drawings, at John McWhinnie @ Glenn Horowitz Bookseller and Art Gallery in New York City (johnmcwhinnie.com). CW: I have taken things and made paintings without having permission. GO: And Christopher, what order are your Polaroids in? Yard. That’s the amusing part of those pairings. First and foremost, Christopher Wool is a painter and when it comes to the discourse on the viability of painting, he shows us that the medium is indeed very much still alive. If you have any problems using the website or have any accessibility concerns, please contact us at 212.206.9100 or info@luhringaugustine.com. The artist remixes. G A G O S I A N W W W . GO: I used to sit with Jean-Michel Basquiat when he was painting, and he’d cover up a section of finished work with paint and I’d think, Oh, God, he’s ruining it. They had absolute fearlessness.CHRISTOPHER WOOL. interview by GLENN O’BRIEN  portrait by TERRY RICHARDSON  THE PAINTINGS OF CHRISTOPHER WOOL combine everything we’ve ever liked: situationism, hard-edge, expressionism, rock, grafitti art, typography, stenciling, street argot, and Warhol’s serial glamour. That’s happened to me with a lot of artists, more so than other media, and it’s part of what makes art so interesting. [laughs] But I grew to really, really love them, and all of his stuff. Christopher Wool is widely regarded as one of the preeminent and most influential American painters of his generation. He has since lived and worked on the Lower East Side of Manhattan. Christopher Wool. And If, 1992 enamel on aluminum 52 x 36 in. But in this case, I wouldn’t. When I first saw his word paintings, I thought: I can’t believe what they’re getting away with these days. RH: For about a year, we’ve been getting together every week. Christopher Wool has a reputation for not talking much. Christopher Wool is widely recognized as one of the world's most important painters. . At first you have to be insulted, almost, RH: Right, right. Christopher Wool & Richard Hell Interview Magazine November 18, 2008. An underscore. He retired from music in 1984 and built a reputation as a writer to rival the one he made as a musician. It seemed like there were 30 good paintings in there. DCAdundee 43,988 views. He played in the first wave of bands that brought attention to CBGB and became famous in 1977 as the auteur of the album Blank Generation. It’s not like I own those words. He did a book of the Polaroids he would take of his paintings as he went along, pictures at various points in the process of making a single painting. What the words have in common is that they look alike, and that’s it. RH: I went over to Christopher’s and saw his painting. It seemed completely arbitrary where he stopped. On the original album cover I’m standing there holding my jacket open, and I don’t have a shirt on underneath. They had absolute fearlessness. But art’s not dead. Either way the Robert Indiana poster – LOVE screaming in all caps – registers as a kind of prophecy. Glenn O’Brien: How do you know each other? He’s of the let-the-work-speak-for-itself school and rarely grants interviews, an aversion perhaps not altogether surprising for an artist who rose to prominence in the late 1980s playing with the hostile, slippery nature of the painted word. Anyway, when I saw the painting, Christopher had filled up its entire surface with “YOU” on top of “MAKE” on top of “ME.” And I said, “Wait a minute. Glenn O’Brien, who goes way back with both of them, met the pair at Wool’s studio on the far Lower East Side of Manhattan to discuss this. Oh, and then it turned out I missed something when I painted Richard’s words. It is an oversized object, roughly twenty-three inches tall, and contains forty pages bearing seventeen reproductions of enamel drawings. Anyway, when I saw the painting, Christopher had filled up its entire surface with “YOU” on top of “MAKE” on top of “ME.” And I said, “Wait a minute. RH: But the way it actually happened was that they are states of writing a single poem. self-confident, and suave. 6:55. This was 1997 or 1998. Or the outrageous, perfect, exploding translation that Ted Berrigan did of “The Drunken Boat,” which Joe Brainard then drew as a cheapo stapled mimeo pamphlet. Besides the book, there are prints and drawings. I realized at a point, as I looked over the drafts, that they made a poem I liked more than any of the drafts separately. Study art history, make … Two days later, it was the greatest thing I’d ever heard. Because of rent. All Rights Reserved. CUZ Editions. Through June 28.Hill Art Foundation, 239 10th Avenue, Manhattan; 212-337-4455, hillartfoundation.org. RH: The major change is that we live in a state now where media is our nature. Which of course he didn’t have to do. I was impressed by how casually he was willing to make what seemed like a major change. May 2008, pp. Herein lies the mastery of Christopher Wool’s work: his relentless pursuit of his chosen medium can be, at … PSYCHOPTS is a book of 57 pictures by Wool and Hell, published by JMc & GHB Editions this month. Christopher Wool. RH: It’s really hard to figure out how you can mix words and images to give you a third thing. So I wrote “What I Would Say If I Were Christopher Wool”-like a bogus interview. RH: I don’t know. An empty line below the last word to rival the one he made as writer. 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